[Luna] Questions about linux.

Tue Oct 24 10:03:05 MST 2006

Jake,
Did you try the link I listed on my last email?  You might want to try the
simple route and set both hard drives to master and only connect the hard
drive with the OS you want to boot into.  I am guessing you are only wanting
to check into Linux and see what it is about.  This would be a great simple
setup.  Forget dual booting for the time being.

What go me through the learning curve was putting Linux on a second hard
drive and removing my windows hard drive.  That gave me the option to switch
back to XP if I needed with out a timely reinstall.  I was on a laptop.
That forced me to use it on my main computer and deal with using the OS
every day.  I worked through all my questions and started to desire my XP
hard drive less. I only booted into my XP disk once during the process.
After some time I was able to do all that I needed on XP in Linux.  Note
also that I am not a gamer so that was never an issue.

-Shane

On 10/24/06, Jake Morin <jacobmorin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well windows has been installed on this machine since 2003.  I only
> started dabbling in Linux about a month ago.  So windows was installed
> first, and linux second.  Like I said, I've tried mandriva one with
> both GRUB and LILO, and I get the same behavior.
>
> On 10/23/06, Shane Lofgren <slofgren at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I feel your pain.  Most likely it is your boot loader.  When setting up
> a
> > system you want to install the primitive OSs first(ie...Windows then
> Linux).
> >  The most preferred boot loader is grub.  Lilo has been said to be out
> > dated.  I am sure someone will speak out and inform us how great it is
> > though. The truth be told, I don't have a lot of experiance dual
> booting.
> > It has never been an activity I cared for.  I understand some have the
> need
> > though.
> >
> > Here is a link I have not fuly read but it did well on digg
> >
> > http://www.hezardastan.org/breezy_xp_dualboot/en/
> >  Let us know how it goes and feel free to bring your box to the next
> > meeting.
> >
> > -Shane
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/06, Jake Morin < jacobmorin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I am subscribed.
> > >
> > > I just seem to have been having the worst time with linux.  I'm not
> > > all that dull when it comes to computers but I've had a hell of a time
> > > with linux.
> > >
> > > First, I had harddrive issues when trying to install on a single
> > > harddrive.  So I decided to get a second harddrive.  I did, and now I
> > > have a whole new set of problems.
> > >
> > > I have set the linux drive to master, the windows drive to slave,
> > > loaded the live cd of mandriva one.  Installed mandriva with lilo.
> > > But for some reason, my computer always boots straight into windows.
> > > I switched the cables, the jumpers, the power cables...all hardware
> > > has been systematically checked.  I checked the bios, sure enough,
> > > linux as master, windows as slave.  I can't get into linux to change
> > > the lilo file because I have to unplug the windows drive to even reach
> > > the linux.
> > >
> > > When I do unplug the windows drive, lilo loads with a 10 second time
> > > out (so I know it isn't a lilo time situation).
> > >
> > > Like I said, I spent about 20 hours before with the single harddrive
> > > issue and I'm just growing tired of all this fuss.  I've tried what's
> > > supposed to be two of the most user friendly distros (Ubuntu and
> > > Mandriva).  Hell I've even tried GRUB with Ubuntu and Mandriva.
> > >
> > > Maybe it's windows fault, maybe it's linux's fault, maybe it's my
> > > fault.  Don't really know to be quite honest.  But if you know,  feel
> > > free to tell me :)
> > >
> > > Jake
> > >
> > > On 10/23/06, Patrick Fleming, EA <pat at rwcinc.net> wrote:
> > > > This might need to also be addressed directly to him as I dont'
> think he
> > > > is subscribed :)
> > > >
> > > > Shane Lofgren wrote:
> > > > > Jake,
> > > > > You have many options to get to know Linux with out the fear. That
> is
> > a big
> > > > > reason why we are here.  Feel free to bring your computer to our
> > regular
> > > > > monthly meetings on the the third Wednesday of every month.  Or
> you
> > could
> > > > > pop in a live CD and try Linux without installing or affecting
> your
> > current
> > > > > OS. There are many versions of live CDs available.  You just
> download
> > the
> > > > > iso image, burn it to a cd and then boot from it.  Some of the
> most
> > popular
> > > > > are knoppix (www.knoppix.org/), DSL (www.damnsmall*linux*.org/),
> puppy
> > > > > (www.
> > > > > *puppy**linux*.org/) and Slax (www.*slax*.org/).  There are tons
> more.
> > > > > Those came off the top of my head and ones that I have experience
> in.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have also posted a new thread on the flaglug.org forums with
> links
> > for
> > > > > new
> > > > > users.
> > > > > http://flaglug.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=94#p94.
> > <http://flaglug.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=94#p94>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The best advice I can offer to really get to know Linux is put it
> on
> > your
> > > > > main computer and get to know it on a day to day basis.  That is
> what
> > > > > got me
> > > > > over the hump and fully converted.  I now run several desktops and
> > several
> > > > > servers with Linux.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope to see you at our next meeting.  Feel free to email to the
> list
> > or
> > > > > post on our forums.
> > > > > -Shane
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/26/06, Jake Morin < jacobmorin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Several weeks back I got a flyer for InstallFest
> 2006.  Unfortunately
> > > > >> I was unable to attend.  My interest in Linux software has been
> > > > >> increasing for about a year now, but I really don't feel
> comfortable
> > > > >> enough to make the plunge.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm not very good at programming and have never touched the linux
> > > > >> system.  However, the idea of a free OS (or nearly free when
> compared
> > > > >> to windows) is very intriguing.  I would like to try linux but am
> > > > >> worried about the consequences of running two OS's on my system.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Is there somewhere you can point me to maybe get more acquanted
> with
> > > > >> Linux?  Thanks for your help.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jake Morin
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
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> > > > >> Phone: (602) 918 0154
> > > > >> Email: jacobmorin at gmail.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "People hardly ever make use of the freedom which they have, for
> > > > >> example, freedom of thought; instead they demand freedom of
> speech as
> > > > >> compensation." Soren Kiekkegaard, Journals
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